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I'm Going A-Courtin'....

As longtime readers know, I don’t trust either of the major political parties.  I have stated that D’s and R’s will sell their own mothers to a Bolivian brothel if the price is right.  Actually, I don’t trust any political party.  That goes double for my fellow Libertarians.  Libertarians have a nasty tendency to let their outrage get in the way and blind them to when they are being used, making them just a step above NIMBY’s.  Get them worked up enough, and they will become servants of the very politicians they organized themselves to fight.  When you declare yourself a martyr to the Constitution, I frankly expect better of you.

I want to take a moment to address everyone, however.  D’s, R’s, L’s, tea partiers, all my fellow Americans.  See, something interesting happened today, and it does not bode well for us.

Today, in a move that surprised approximately no one (especially me), a Federal judge, Susan Bolton, put a freeze on key portions of Arizona’s immigration law.  The portions she blocked?  Empowering officers to check immigration status while enforcing other laws (I’m guessing it’s not requiring them to do so, but empowering.  Otherwise, why couldn't they do that now?), requiring immigrants to carry their papers at all times, no undocumented workers soliciting employment in public places (day laborers), and officers making warrantless arrests of suspected illegal immigrants.  Everything else, which basically amounts to tightening the bolts on an existing immigration law from 2001, is okay.

Which means, it’s going to be years before this is resolved.  I mean, I knew from the beginning this was going to be challenged on Constitutional grounds.  And it definitely will be appealed to the Supreme Court, where states’ rights is a legal crapshoot.  The Supes have shown a tendency to rule in favor of the fed vs. states in regards to the 10th Amendment over the past, oh, fifty years.  That’s why I’m not bothering with any outrage.  It’ll be a long time before this is resolved, and I’d rather not waste my energy until it is known exactly what the results will be.

(For those interested, my guesses on the big four above?  I’m pretty sure warrantless arrests will be tossed, since you need a warrant to enter premises and so on, so shooting that down is a gimme under the rules for search and seizure.  4th Amendment trumps the 10th.  No undocumented workers soliciting work?  That will likely get tossed on the grounds that enforcement of current law will be enough to do that.  Carrying papers for immigrants?  Probably struck down on grounds that ID should be good enough, so a check of your driver’s license should be enough to verify status so you shouldn’t need papers (and will probably get a new state law requiring citizenship for a DL).  The big first one, authorizing police who have already detained you to check you out?  …no idea…)

So, if this is not triggering my “whut?” reaction, what is?  It’s this….

Obamacare passed four months before the Arizona law did.  By that weekend, states were filing lawsuits on Constitutional grounds challenging Obamacare on Constitutional grounds.

Not a peep from anyone, the courts, the AG’s, anyone.  The cases have not moved an inch forward.

Almost like…it’s being used as an election stunt.

Now, support or oppose these things, that’s up to you.  I have my opinion, you have yours, and we are allowing each other to think the way we wish.  But make no mistake – these lawsuits are meant to stir us up come election day, it has nothing to do with protecting the Constitution and/or defending the republic.

Do not let your outrage blind you.  The politicians realize the voters are angry and are trying to put us back in chains and control us.  Watch the court, protest laws, start petitions, whatever.  But don’t trust that they have our best interests at heart.  They have their own.  Big big difference.  It is up to us to do what is right.

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ying_ko_4
Jul. 29th, 2010 01:27 am (UTC)
You said, "Almost like…it’s being used as an election stunt."

No, really? Honest? Ya really think so?

Okay then...I am officially done laughing myself silly over the obviousness of this statement. :-)

Seriously, thanks for pointing out the obvious as I hadn't considered it because it was right there in plain sight.

And that lawsuit you speak of which shall not be named? Ain't got a prayer. Nor does the idiotic Constitutional Amendment being voted on by the Electorate of the Great State of Missouri next week. It'll get challenged and tossed. No great vision needed on that one. Besides, it isn't a popular stance anymore. Most polls have people taking a wait and see approach to see how well it works or doesn't. Which, to be honest, is sort of refreshing. Some common sense for a change.

Who knew?

FWIW, I may not always agree with your viewpoints, but I certainly respect how you present them, how you arrive at them and they always, without fail, make me think. For that, I thank you.
sinetimore
Jul. 29th, 2010 01:48 am (UTC)
A few things...

First of all, what does the icon say? I never learned sign language. (I'm hoping you know me well enough to know I'm not being sarcastic here.)

Second, as far as the obviousness, I was simply trying to present my conclusion in an entertaining way. You may laugh at the obviousness, but better that than being angered by my rhetoric. I mean, come on, I'm trying not to be Glenn Beck here, dude. ;-)

Third, the lawsuit that shall not be named (the Voldermort lawsuit?) -- maybe not on state's rights grounds. As I've said before, I don't see that working, what with the Preamble and Section 1 overriding it. I still think the more effective gambit would be to challenge on the grounds that the government can't force people to participate in commerce. It's what got a lot of FDR's New Deal programs bounced. But that isn't what the AG's are arguing, they are arguing on 10th Amendment grounds. And I would certainly agree with you there -- expecting such an argument to win is laughable.

Fourth, what Constitutional Amendment for Missouri? Inquiring minds want to know!

The wait and see stance is refreshing, to some extent. The states amending their Constitutions to exempt their citizens from Obamacare? That will be the next battleground for the 10th Amendment (and I see that flying like a stone kite, also). No one's making a move because they want to see what shakes out in November. And that's the problem with wait and see -- it makes doing the right thing or at least exploring what the right thing might be a political liability. Instead of doing what's right, they are doing what it takes to win an election. It's expected (we all do things to preserve our jobs), it's just disappointing.

And finally, I'm glad we can challenge each other's notions and make each other think and still respect each other in the morning. It's too bad more of the world can't be like that.
ying_ko_4
Jul. 30th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
1) WTF

2) You are too thoughtful to be Beck. Besides, you've got brain activity. That alone leaves you out of that imitator pool.

3) Republicans for Voldemort. I love that shirt....

3) http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Missouri_Health_Care_Freedom,_Proposition_C_%282010%29

I think you know how I shall be voting on this waste of time.

4) The Voters are exhibiting common sense. Apparently, showing sense, common or otherwise is an automatic dis-qualifier for Congress.

And finally, I agree.
sinetimore
Jul. 30th, 2010 03:01 am (UTC)
Republicans For Voldemort -- Why choose the LESSER evil?

As far as voters with sense being disqualified from Congress, I will simply remind you of the old joke, "If con is the opposite of pro, then is Congress the opposite of progress?"
sinetimore
Jul. 29th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
P.S. This is also why like discussing politics with you and I don't like discussing politics with my mom and dad. All you have to do is listen to them and you can tell they form their conclusions first, THEN find the arguments to back them up. Assuming, of course, that Faux News hasn't told them what conclusion they should have, knowwhutImean?
ying_ko_4
Jul. 30th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
I learn from you. That can never be a bad thing.
sinetimore
Jul. 30th, 2010 03:02 am (UTC)
And I you. Your questions keep me on the right track instead of just blindly stumbling along.
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